Thanks in advance. Tropius is also one of the absolute best HM slaves, and its attack and special attack are about equal and acceptable for that point in the game. Houndoom was a must for Jynx, Blaziken was actually pretty useless through the game and I only used it because he looks cool. Tropius has Strength, Cut, Fly, Rock Smash. For those who may want other uses for this incredible pokemon, consider stacking it with hms. Cryptogeodude is my HM slave. NOTE: This playthrough used to be a nuzlocke. Also looks like a boss. Corn (Shiny so it looks like a kernel of corn) Garchomp - Super joe (From Commando and Bionic Commando) Female Garchomp - Honey Porygon2 - Bluebyrd (A kind of Plum, and another name for Duck sauce is Plum sauce, also it's shiny so it's blue) Porygon-z - Kid Dynamo Female Scizor - Vanessa (Scizor is a Mantis, Orchid Mantis is a. Jan 2, 2015. Sign in with the following networks. Bibarel and Tropius. I want Tropius to have a use again so I can just use my old Mew as an HM slave again anyway. You can't take a 4th HM, but having Pickup as an ability helps out. 1. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. My Lilligant knows Sleep Powder, Flash, Cut, and Giga Drain. answered Jun 22, 2022 by sumwun selected Jul 9, 2022 by Fizz. Strangely enough, there’s one other Pokemon in the series that learns Cut without needing an HM, largely because this Pokemon debuted after the developers removed HMs from the series. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Rapiido Flying Paradise Bird. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. Tropius not only are great HM slaves (Cut, Fly, Strength and Rock Smash) but also are in two egg groups (Grass & Monster) : r/friendsafari "Ian": 5198-3339-3123 [Flying:Hoothoot,Doduo,Tropius] View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit Location. Aerodactyl - Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash Golduck - Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, Rock Climb You can't get Aerodactyl until after the Elite Four, but you also don't need Rock Climb until Mt Silver. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive Flash TROPIUS AND CHANDELURE!!!!! Yes! I am so damn pumped! Goodra is also a great choice! I am meh on Intelion. H. . Make a note that Tropius cannot be found at Night (20:00-03:59). . Imo togekiss is excellent if u got a serene grace togepi. #FreeAssange. Dlnar • 10 yr. Tropius and Golduck. Neither Tropius nor Lapras are good for Competitive Battling. I use a dragonite for HM and defeating hordes, and a bulbasaur for the rest of. but why the hell do you even care about the evs/nature of your fricken hm slaves edit:stefywefy beat me to that . Mew and Smeargle. Tropius is exclusive to Platinum; if you only have access to Diamond and/or Pearl, you can't get it. Next Last. 3M subscribers in the pokemon community. ago. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. Tropius not only are great HM slaves (Cut, Fly, Strength and Rock Smash) but also are in two egg groups (Grass & Monster) : r/friendsafari "Ian": 5198-3339-3123. Wow, an intelligent question on my pokemon boards? Damn, I might just have to help you. But a lot of other water Pokes work too. For a field HM slave, try Charizard. I plan to buy the Ocarinas for the other HMs (Flash, Waterfall, Dive, etc) so only one of my pokemon slot is reserved to the Tropius slave. Defog (Japanese: きりばらい Fog Wipe) is a non-damaging Flying-type move introduced in Generation IV. Bibarel and Tropious are my HM slaves, and they too can learn all the HMs between them. I usually don't have an HM slave. Tropius can learn Rock Smash, Cut, Fly, Defog and Strength. Ray Rizzo and James Baek did videos about a hard to break Tropius this Gen. It's the goat HM slave though, no one else can learn the unique combo of four that it gets. Smeargle, Tropius, Mew. Egg Moves. ROCK CLIMB on Conkeldurr. Smiley-Fakemon on DeviantArt Smiley-FakemonFor Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "hm slaves u use" - Page 2. Tropius and Tentacool are perfect HM slaves. Nidorina or Nidorino and Dragonite are also. You can teach your team members the good hms like surf, fly, and strength. Dang, I was afraid of that. This Pokédex. HM slaves aren't necessary to progress, but the water HMs feel necessary to have fun. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home This is a famous water-type HM slave that evolves from Psyduck and, in Heartgold, comes in handy because it’s available virtually everywhere and can make all HM moves except for cutting. As a Grass/Flying-type, it can learn Fly among four other HMs in Cut, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. Waterfall- Goldeen and Seaking can already learn it. The HM Slave everyone uses received an evolution in Procyon and Deneb. tropius because it also learns cut, flash, sweet scent, strength, and rock smash which are all useful in-game moves for an hm slave. News. " -- Crazy Horse to catching tropius in emeraldthe only place to catch tropius is route 119 duuhhh. that's about it. This is. It can learn almost every HM. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:Aerodactyl can learn every HM in the game except Rock Climb, and Golduck can learn every HM except Cut and Fly. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. . Safari=Dwebble, Pupitar and Shuckle. Hiyakkie on the other hand can learn Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. You find Tropius on 119, before you have the Fly HM or even access to the badge to use it. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. TengYt 14 years ago #15. How about a regional form? Nibounium • 4 mo. After all, you need someone to use all of those hidden machines. I went to Route 4 to try and find some Kanto Pokemon. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. The main mons that cover the important ones you need (Fly, Surf, etc) are Dragonite, Lugia, Mew, Latias, and Latios. Tropius - Cut / Fly / Strength / Rock Smash Rayquaza - Fly / Surf / Strength / Waterfall / Rock Smash / Dive Fast Money Trainer's Eye: When rematching these trainers, you will automatically face their strongest team if you have defeated the Elite Four. Tropius is a god tier HM slave. Now usually Tropius and Gyarados are enough. 3 Crobat. Darth_Mom 15 years ago #2. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. . . Having those 2 pokemon is enough to navigate through the game. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Surf. They just need to make him Grass/Dragon already. Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. For a throwaway HM slave? Wingull is a lot closer. ". It becomes a full-fledged HM boss. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. 1 Kartana. At the very least though it still makes for a great HM slave. And Chinchou. A poké with a full fucking arsenal of HM moves is more than that. Golduck has webbed feet, making it a fast swimmer. Simply by existing, this banana-bearing brachiosaurus elevates the Pokémon world, giving it more flavor. Feels like a decent compromise. This includes the option of spreading your HMs among your party and not using a dedicated HM Slave. RhydonAvailability is the most important thing for a good HM slave. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. I don't know what to teach him for his 4th HM move. Mew, Smeargle, Tropius. 2. An HM slave runs one or two HMs. When you got her in the story they wanted you to send a pokemon back, so I sent my. I ended up using Latias as my HM Slave. If anything, remember that those two aforementioned HM slaves are all you really need. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. . 101 Speed is really solid, ties. If there's an EXP Share like XY then it'll be easy to level him up. News. Ok-Leave3121 • 4 mo. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius". knows false. Tropius has zero competitively useful sets in singles or doubles in pretty much any conceivable format. All the HMs you ever need can go on two Pokémon, leaving four slots open for whatever you like and no worries as far as roadblocks, ever. Despite these setbacks, the devs blessed Tropius with a powerful evolution in Pokémon Procyon and Pokémon Deneb. Pancham is pretty good early on, Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Surf. One word. -Henry Louis Mencken. If you're looking for the Sword & Shield or Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl, Check out Tropius Pokémon Sword & Shield data. I taught it Strength, Fly, Cut, and Flash. The best HM slave combo is: 1. For just the land based HMs, dwebble/crustle get an honorable mention. Plus it get's the ability Pick-up. Especially Strength, because once you push in a boulder, it stays in. Fly is also usable in game, now that it is 90 base power, but don't use it competitively. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. But it seems tropiua ia not here? Any suggestions for Slaves? Currently on Pokemon League on the first region. Nice, thanks for the heads up. Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. Otherwise, nope. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. PokeAMon 14 years ago #5. . The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. Hellfire is my HM Slave, and Brimstone is my Shiny Charizard with super powered up moves. I'm against a separate list for HM-slaves for that very reason. What are the two best HM slaves, like 2 pokemon that can use all the hms between them and what are the best places to find them at?. If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. More so than Altaria does. 1. . The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Can you guys tell me which pokèmon is a good HM slave for early/middle/end story mode? ty in advance. My Tropius HM slave has Fly, Rock Smash and Cut now. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. png "You may use this, if you either send me an inbox, or credit me, linking to my page. Bibarel and tropius learn all HM's. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. Dragonite can learn Fly Surf Waterfall Strenght HMs. Amon_Ishtar 15 years ago #3 Gyarados as an HM slave on. Thanks in advance. It's Steel-type, I won't bother using it in battles. BW1 & BW2: Wailmer for water, Tropius for everything else X: The gift Lapras you get for water, my Fletchlinder for Flying (and breeding since it also had Flamebody), and Bibreal for the rest. Disturbed1314 years ago#3. She's currently level 49 cause when my current team gets whooped by some lucky high-level wild one, she steps in and saves the day with one powerful Surf. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment byokero swing from the Chandelure • Additional comment actions. Whirlpool. What is a good HM slave? In my opinion, Bibarel is the best HM slave in every game. Vancityriot • 13 yr. Anyway I am playing PkM Silver right now, so I thought what Pokemon wold be best for HM slave for gen2 PkM games, or gen3, gen1 ;153;Who, in your opinion, is the best hm slave? I'm using the Shiny gyarados (Rock Smash, Strength, Surf, and Whirlpool) Pokemon Black FC: 2666 1617 9618. 2 Gallade. . Fly. You can get it in the Pokewalker (Big Forest) in HG/SS. . AindZs91 13 years ago #2. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). It's one of the best possible HM slaves though, taking care of all the non-water HMs. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some weeks ago so we can't roll the forums back. gbchaosmaster. I like Golduck because he can learn almost every HM. 4. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Bibarrel. I've got octillery (Cthulhu), houndoom (hell-hound), sableye (hobgoblin), galvantula (spider, duh), swoobat…I meant awesome looking. TM/HM Move Type Category TM05 Roar: TM06 Toxic: TM10 Hidden Power: TM11 Sunny Day: TM15 Hyper Beam: TM17 Protect:Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. /argument- Swanna can also learn Surf and Dive, making it a great HM slave. it's pretty good. I like Farfetch'd because he can learn Fly and Cut. It gets cut, flash, rock smash, strength, and fly. mewruler 15 years ago #3 *cough*bibarel and peliper*cough*. Oct 14, 09 at 7:47pm (PST) ^. What is the least number of HM slaves I need in my party? That are easy to catch?. Usually the. Tauros is an excellent candidate for TM Slave 1; he learns, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. hyahyahyahya • 4 mo. He can learn Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. In the arena of logic, I fight un-armed. If anything, remember that those two aforementioned HM slaves are all you really need. Reply. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. I really don't see the problem. The best HM slaves are Skarmory and Bibarel. Notify me about new: Guides. WizardofHoth 8 years ago #9. drumskatelove 14 years ago #14. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. Stev019 8 years ago #6. I find it most useful to filter "Hoenn only", and then sort by the rightmost column (total number learnable). - Swanna can also learn Surf and Dive, making it a great HM slave. A great replacement for Linoone and stand-in until your preferred flying Pokemon that are harder to get, like Flygon and Salamence. DATA_ERROR. This is a topic dumping on Tropius, but honestly, I think this topic is failing to appreciate what a true failure of a Pokemon Tropius is. BANANYAN was Patterrz's starter, & his main Pokémon during the run, later joined by Kenya the Magmar. Switch FC:SW-4440-8273-6335 name: Koby. While I was doing that I realized he. No one has mentioned him but I use Diggersby as my HM SLave and he does work. ago. 1f u c4n r34d 7h1s u r34lly n33d 2 g37 4 l1f3. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive FlashTropius!!!! My favorite HM slave in-game. "Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery. Tropius together with any of a large number of water Pokemon. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. 3. ago. Tropius can replace Ziggy later on as it can also learn Fly. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Aug 18, 2010. Sign in with the following networks. It can be an interesting wall with it's hidden ability restoring berries, but it's not a GOOD pokemon in a battle sense. Post Posted: Nov 22, 2009 6:42 pm. For the other HMs get a Wailmer. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. In PokeMMO literature, utility Pokemons focused on HMs called HM slave. Cut. Wishcash. Let's be real, Zigg is hands down the best HM slave. Because it's annoying having HM slaves, I cheated a big and traded over the two for my playthrough SoulSilver. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that. Tropius (Fly, Strength, Rock Smash) (Defog for Sinnoh) 2. You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. Oh yeah I guess 9 HM's then, I forgot rock climb. No one has mentioned him but I use Diggersby as my HM SLave and he does work. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. 12. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit. themasterpikmin 8 years ago #2. Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100Eww dont put HMs on your good pokemon A bunch of people, myself included, have an "HM Slave" in our parties that just sits there and uses all the HMs like Cut, Rock Smash, etc that are horrible move-wise. And a Dragonite with Fly, Defog, Cut, Whirlpool. Wurmple at level 10, then at level 11, it evolved to Porygon, that's better. Yamata_Demon 14 years ago #4. ago. 3DS FC: 1891 1187 4587 White 2 FC: 1765 0547 5604. My main HM slave is my Diamond starter, Empoleon. 4. As far as I know, Slaking doesn't benefit from any attacks other than return, shadow ball, earthquake, and maybe hyper beam. there's something wrong with you if you have a dragonite HM slave though. #10. For Pokemon SoulSilver Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "breloom any good in comparison to Tropius?". Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. Business, Economics, and Finance. Personally I use Tropius as a slave since it can also learn Sweet Scent to spawn Hordes. Most notably the ones people use the most. Bunches of delicious fruit grow around its neck. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. A samurott can learn all the HMs except fly. So, the question is. Tropius is quite good but I generally like to get my HM slaves sorted out asap and training a Patrat till level 20 is better than waiting till much later in the game where Tropius is catchable (unless you can get one by trade early on), the water HMs arent that big a deal while Swanna cant use them all giving it one of the physical HMs and Fly. Welcome to the Masquerade. i give like one hm to almost all pokemon but some may have two like water pokemon have surf and waterfall. DIVE WATERFALL STRENGTH ROCK SMASH on Gyarados. As Fly Users go, only Tropius and Salamence are non-legendaries that learn at least 4 HMs. Gum-Gum Gummi Ship: Blueprint Active! "The show where everything's made up and the points don't matter! Let's have some fun!" RaikouTGC 13 years ago #3. You can do better than that. Then used skarmory for cut, rock smash, and fly. Shuppet thief. What is the best hm slave for FireRed? Well not every Pokemon can learn all the hm moves, try tropius. Tropius is at best an HM slave, but only in gen 3. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius=Best HM Slave in the series. Bibarel and Tropius can learn all of them between the two. Gyarados, zigzagoon/linoone, bidoof/bibarrel, tropius, and even samurott. The Pokémon fandom developed the term "HM slave" for creatures you don't really intend to train, but who occupy a slot in your roster for their field-navigating HM (Hidden Machine) techniques. ago. 19. Lol, I used swampert for strength, waterfall, and surf. . tropius is also a good hm slave. ORAS: Sharpedo for water (double the speed has its perks; plus it was powerful to boot), Altaria for Flying, Zigzagoon and Tropius for the other stuff. Whatever the choice, don't be that guy who constantly switches Pokemon in and out the PC every time you need to use an HM move. dragonite can learn 7 out of 8 HMs iirc! so clearly the answer is 2 dragonites. Reserve the weak hms like rock. Rotom is immune to all of them. SNRGTCgamer posted. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. #13. ". . Notify me about new: Guides. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "breloom any good in comparison to Tropius?". Get a Starly for Fly and Defog. - It has a terrible movepool. lol Fly. Best 2 HM slaves for this game Pokemon Omega Ruby 3DS. You can then pick anything in the top 15 or so on the chart (and others below, depending on which 3rd/4th moves you give. The Pokemon Database has this awesome chart that can be used to find "HM slaves". ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. knows false swipe, soak, spore and ingrain. I think Furret and Bibarel can learn these moves as well. and i dont use defog because it is not necessary to use it to complete the game. Board Topics. Rock Smash. Tropius was the GOAT HM slave back in Gen 3, but has fallen into obscurity since. Gen IX Dex. :x. " Element-17 Tropius + Tentacool also have all 8 HMs and Golduck much rarer than Tentacool. For Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius?". I found Linoone quite useful as a HM slave, with the Pick-Up ability as a bonus. commented Sep 25, 2021 by Puncuation Leader I recommend replacing Absol's aerial ace with strength or return and then just challenge the Pokemon League until you get enough experience to win. To Sharpedos and Linoones everywhere, we say thankyou. Mirage312 15 years ago #2 Zigzagzoon for cut, surf, rocksmash. Waterfall is also only used in Evergrande City and Victory Road (there are a few. " - Malcolm X. Bibarrel. customise me! customise me! I wasted a Salamence as my HM Slave. . Pokemon Alpha Sapphire IGN: Haruka. Surf is on my water pokemon (Lapras). The bunches of fruit growing around the necks of Tropius in Alola are especially sweet compared to those in other regions. 12. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. with pokèsav magikarp is an excellent hm slave. 25: (slave) Cut Fly Strength Rock Smash. I got to thinking about this last night and thought I would see what you guys thought. Both have interesting designs, in my opinion. Get. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. I'll always swap it in for my strongest Pokemon whenever I need it and it came clutch for me in Victory Road. 0m. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. Gyarados for surf/waterfall/dive/strength. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. FC: 5344-0470-3833. 1 Crawdaunt. As an HM slave, Wishcash is a particularly good choice thanks to a solid typing of ground and water, as well as having a decent move set. Since in AS/OR you can use the Eon flute for flying, Linoone is the only HM slave you need in your party unless you need to dive or get up a waterfall. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. Share Sort by: Best. [deleted] • 4 yr. Hm slave Reply SamG1769420. Tropius. sandslash. 1 Kartana. After that you can just dump the rest of the HMs on Tropius or Linoone, and it's easy enough to breed/train a new Gyarados for the post-game if that tickles your fancy (or just use the move deleter). Two-Face 13 years ago #3. How about a regional form? Nibounium • 4 mo. Despite these setbacks, the devs blessed Tropius with a powerful evolution in Pokémon Procyon and Pokémon Deneb. "--- Teenman. Atk. HM Slave. I used an Excadrill of Cut and Strength, and a Swanna for Fly, Surf, and Dive. I won't name the movesets because I don't think it necessary. For a field HM slave, try Charizard. Best HM slaves? Thread starter hlzwalkie; Start date Apr 12, 2007; 1; 2; Next. Bibarell is the ultimate HM slave. 4 Greninja. Nidorina/Nidorino: Cut, Strength, Rock Smash. . " SW-6321-4362-5535. HM's and Field Moves:-SURF -WATERFALL -WHIRLPOOL -ROCK SMASH -HEADBUTT -TELEPORT -FLY -ROCK CLIMB -DIG-MILK DRINK -SOFTBOILED -CUT -STRENGTH -FLASH DIG = useful and awesome, rather a must to have on something as it makes ESCAPE ROPE "useless"; give an EVERSTONE to a Diglett or use TM 28 on an ONIX. Dragonite can learn all HM's except flash. This lists each Pokémon that can learn the move. The player lost the nuzlocke and is now continuing. - It's also terrible cause some HMs are terrible moves. Best slave pokemon? Pokemon - Diamond, Pearl & Platinum Help ForumTropius (HM Slave) Please Help and Vote! Top. If you have access to one, a Rampardos learns a bunch. So let's hear about your HM slaves. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. Tropius was the GOAT HM slave back in Gen 3, but has fallen into obscurity since. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. This is the place for most…If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. Pikachu Surf Flash Strenght Payday. Absolutely. WhiteBladeMarth 12 years ago #2.